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How to Install Water Methanol Injection and Tune Your Engine For It
Water Injection system used in the video: www.snowperformance.eu/en/water-injection/boost-cooler-stage-2
How Water Methanol (or Ethanol) injection works: ua-cam.com/video/z7CuQNvk6rg/v-deo.html
This video is a detailed step-by-step tutorial on how to install, configure and tune your engine for a water methanol injection kit.
This video covers the following:
Hardware install,
Wiring,
Nozzle position selection,
Nozzle sizing,
ECU tuning,
I will be installing the Snow performance Stage 2 kit but almost everything you will see in this video applies to other kits from other manufacturers as well as DIY kits.
The first thing we will install is the tank or reservoir. You can install this anywhere but I recommend that you install it somewhere far away from heat as well as road debris. Usually, the car’s trunk works well for this. To install the tank you just need find or provide four studs or bolt holes and bolt it down. I used two existing holes in my trunk and made another small bracket for the remaining two mounting points.
Before you install the tank make sure to install the outlet nozzle which will feed water to the pump. All threads in this kit are self-sealing NPT threads so they don’t really need any sort of sealant but I prefer to install them with a bit of sealant. The Snow Performance kit comes with the correct sealant for this application.
Something else this kit has is a fluid level warning sensor that tells you when the tank is about to run dry. This is optional and you don’t have to install it but I think it’s a nice useful feature. The fluid level sensor is connected to a little warning light that you install in the interior of your vehicle. The light flashes red when the water level is low.
Next, it’s time to install the pump. The pump can be installed both in a horizontal or vertical position but it must be installed close to the tank and the inlet nozzle of the pump must be below the level of the outlet nozzle of the tank so that the water drains easily into the pump without the pump having to suck the water up. Both the tank and the pump should be installed below the level of the intake manifold of the engine where the water-methanol mix will be injected.
If you’re running a turbo or a centrifugal supercharger, then you can not install the nozzle into the turbo intake because the high-speed water and methanol droplets can erode the leading edges of your compressor wheel. If you’re running a screw type or roots supercharger then you should install the nozzle before the supercharger. This is the ideal nozzle location for such applications.
This means that in turbocharged, intercooled applications such as mine, the nozzle should be installed after the intercooler but before the throttle body.
Once everything is installed we can proceed with the tuning. The first step with the tuning is to set your injection timing. This is set on the little display and it is absolutely detrimental to the performance of your system. There are only two things you can set, the start time of the injection and the end time of the injection. The rule of thumb is to set the injection start time at about 40% of your maximum boost pressure. So if you’re running 1 bar or 14.5 psi of boost then you will set injection start time at 0.4 bar and end time at 1 bar.
In general, if you choose an overly large nozzle or too early of an injection timing you will notice a power loss because of water injection. The overly large amount of water mist coming in too soon negatively impacts the combustion flame front and kills power. If you experience a power loss or measure it on a dyno after installing the water-methanol system then you can start by setting the injection timing later. If that doesn’t help you will likely have to go to a smaller nozzle. Alternatively, you can increase your boost pressure and ignition timing even further because the power loss tells you that there is now ample space to safely add more boost and timing.
Once you’re done with boost pressure you can play with the timing. This is my ignition timing map and for example, you can see that at peak boost I’m running relatively conservative timing. This is adequate timing without water-methanol injection but it’s actually conservative with water-methanol injection. Increasing timing by a few degrees here can easily gain another 10, 20 or likely even more horsepower.
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00:00 Table of Contents
00:53 Hardware Install
04:20 Wiring and Pump Priming
05:40 Nozzle Location
08:09 Nozzle Sizing
08:59 Injection Timing
11:36 ECU Tuning
14:26 Water Injection Causes Rust?
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КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @ntdscherer
    @ntdscherer 17 годин тому

    There's one other time when you can exceed your brakes' heat capacity, and that's driving down a mountain. Next video idea (not that you'll see this): weight has no effect on braking distance either.

  • @Psych_777
    @Psych_777 18 годин тому

    I commissioned a research project on this in the past. Literally EVERY single manufacturer now uses 3D-injection-molded plastic components for auxiliary parts such as water pumps, thermostat housings, valve covers, etc. Everything that is not the engine or transmission. Subaru, Honda, BMW, Toyota, EVERYONE. The best thing you can do is accept it and plan to refresh these plastic bits at 80k - 100k miles. These companies are not going back to metal components. The days of driving your car 200,000 miles with only oil changes is over. it comes down to cost-savings, emissions (very big deal), and regulatory restrictions (very big deal). Planned obsolescence isn't completely the only explanation.

  • @jmace1957
    @jmace1957 18 годин тому

    My father was a world-class model airplane (free flight) flyer. Many of his planes used engines about the sizes of those shown. They had been internally honed and specially prepared so that while one out of the box might spin at 8-9000 rpm, his were spinning a 12" propeller at 15-17000 rpm. He could release a bright orange plane with a 8 foot wingspan, and within 5 or 6 seconds it would be out of sight (close to 200 mph).

  • @shaquedelilicss7849
    @shaquedelilicss7849 18 годин тому

    What nitro power (3.5cc) has the highest HP.?

  • @Srt8Jeep
    @Srt8Jeep 18 годин тому

    “Every thing falls to the earth at the same rate no matter the weight”. “Not if it’s paper and it catches wind” You guys are just arguing different circumstances.

  • @budgetbumpin
    @budgetbumpin 20 годин тому

    I know very well how the internal combustion engine works BUT still to this day it blows my mind how the combustion cycle can even still work at high revolutions! You would think eventually the air/fuel mixture and exhaust would just start getting all mixed up with turbulence where nothing worked right or the air couldn't move fast enough, and that the lubrication even works at that rate is amazing, you would think that the top end would just seize up from heat and friction. The modern IC engine really is a mind blowing marvel of modern engineering.

  • @qwertycoupe
    @qwertycoupe 20 годин тому

    What about downforce at speed? Making the car not able to lock the brakes thus needing larger brakes?

  • @NineEleven1
    @NineEleven1 20 годин тому

    I work for DAF/Paccar in engine development. A few remarks here. Our diesel engines run with EGR all the time except for cold start below a certain oil temperature so also during full load. Our crankcase ventilation system is open so no oil mixes with the air and our soot deposits are dry and don't cause any clogging issues

  • @wannabecarguy
    @wannabecarguy 21 годину тому

    I got a lot of questions....

  • @harsha3647
    @harsha3647 21 годину тому

    What actually makes the piston come up? I understand the inlet and ignition stroke makes it go down

  • @smvuy
    @smvuy 21 годину тому

    Coates developed a DOHC analog rotary valve, which does allow to put the spark plug in the center

  • @stephenkohler3472
    @stephenkohler3472 21 годину тому

    Beautifully explained

  • @pietsnyman3929
    @pietsnyman3929 22 години тому

    Thanks

  • @NIKLUB_TANKS_BLITZ
    @NIKLUB_TANKS_BLITZ 22 години тому

    А потом понимаешь что больше от глушака зависит...

  • @user-sd1fk9jh8g
    @user-sd1fk9jh8g 23 години тому

    Engine!!!!!!!! 🔥💯

  • @user-sd1fk9jh8g
    @user-sd1fk9jh8g 23 години тому

    😊 fire!!!!!! Engine 🚂🚒

  • @jameshowell9913
    @jameshowell9913 23 години тому

    This is not new,saw one like it in USAF MUSEUM 60 YEARS AGO .That engine was made back in the twenties.

  • @zzp1
    @zzp1 День тому

    Carbon will and can break without any previous warning. Particular when coming under stress and vibrations. Get your facts.

  • @stefanocerbioni1327
    @stefanocerbioni1327 День тому

    why not use a cell peltier for keep at constant temperature (very low, with trimmer you can choice the temp) and put down water and intercoler air ?

  • @dan2304
    @dan2304 День тому

    The limiting braking acceleration is the coefficients of friction of the tyres.

  • @TheBevo67
    @TheBevo67 День тому

    The answer that EVs are attempting to solve (pollution) is definitely not reached by having every rube own an electric vehicle. Rather electric only makes sense if we all collectively adopt (or are mandated) to use mass transit. It might be true that ICE will need to be eventually phased out, but replacing all those ICE with EV does not solve the pollution problem. The real answer is to replace most forms of individual powered-vehicle platforms (inside cities) with mass transit - but how many EV owners would want this?

  • @Aspeer1971
    @Aspeer1971 День тому

    So would an electrically assisted turbo/supercharger at low rpm offset higher boost threshold from lower air pressure at low rpm, increasing the likelihood of future factory rear mounted setups?

  • @RacingRalphEVO
    @RacingRalphEVO День тому

    Well on the ocassions where the „torque biased” engine won, it would be worth metntioning, that the „power biased” engine lost because it never actually made it’s power or made it only briefly. The „torque biased” engine made more power on average. At the end of the day - only power maters. The confusion comes from the fact that peak power that occurs at a specific RPM value, doesn’t tell how much power the engine makes anywhere else in the rev range.

  • @wafer2582
    @wafer2582 День тому

    not as realiable as well more moving parts and electronics

  • @antoinepageau8336
    @antoinepageau8336 День тому

    Also BEV will take over. Now that’s an improvement.

  • @antonymasefield7710
    @antonymasefield7710 День тому

    I have been reading and watching videos on EGR deletion after having cleaned my EGR and associated pipes about 2 years ago. What a mess! However, I have been undecided until now on whether to go that route or not. based on your excellent, comprehensive, video I have decided not to go the "EGR Delete" route. Reason being was your comment on having to actually reprogram the ECU as the correct running parameters for the engine are based on there being exhaust gasses present on the inlet side. Don't think anyone else has mentioned this, but what you say, is logical, and puts the whole saga into perspective! Thank you for taking the time to explain this! 👏👏

  • @russell5791
    @russell5791 День тому

    So "back in the day" if you wanted guarantee something to last you had to over engineer it. Now with computer simulation you can pretty much say how long something will last. Why make a car to last more than 150k miles and 10 years when you can buy a new one. Low emission zones and the amount of tech makes them obsolete earlier.

  • @naseemgul8237
    @naseemgul8237 День тому

    wao excellent I am appreciate you

  • @ilikepeachesandfucky
    @ilikepeachesandfucky День тому

    Yeah, for example switching the valve train from front to back of the engine by BMW is not evil :D

  • @teodorgeric235
    @teodorgeric235 День тому

    Diesel is the second cuz it works on compression. Am I right?

  • @KORTOKtheSTRONG
    @KORTOKtheSTRONG День тому

    neat

  • @egyptioneseagelseagels841
    @egyptioneseagelseagels841 День тому

    😁😀😃😄😆🤩🥰😊🤓😎

  • @michalmaludy9705
    @michalmaludy9705 День тому

    are there 2 diffrent inches? or how you calculated 247mm being 10.7" when 1" is 25.4mm🤔

  • @Ano-Nymos
    @Ano-Nymos День тому

    Electronically controlled electric valves would be even better. I remember reports about the development of an engine without conventional valves. In other words, no camshaft and no timing belt or timing chain. So no risk of the timing belt breaking and no need to adjust this technology during repairs. I also thought of electrification as an obstacle to series production. It's a shame that such technologies didn't arrive much earlier so that we could still benefit from them. Especially with the current petrol prices (currently around €1.9/$2.0 per litre here). The second thing whose story seems a bit strange is an alleged improvement to the carburettor by a private inventor in the USA, which allegedly led to a Ford Galaxy from the 70s weighing 1.8 tonnes consuming only 2.3l/100km (~102mpg). Yes, that sounds incredibly low, comparable only to modern 4-stroke 50cc carburettor scooters (with indirect injection around ~1.7l/100km). But it was in many TV programmes, scientists and engineers examined the vehicle, found no hidden additional tanks, but due to pressure from the oil industry and a secret patent, the technology is said to have disappeared. All documents were probably also confiscated by the FBI.

  • @sachingunarathna1407
    @sachingunarathna1407 День тому

    Could you please tell me, which VCI suite for the Mazda vehicles,

  • @tesntaccout4187
    @tesntaccout4187 День тому

    Noob doesnt know the use of big lever!

  • @peterthomas5792
    @peterthomas5792 День тому

    Good video. They won't stop you faster, but they'll stop you quickly more often without fading. Pretty pointless on the road TBH...

  • @titanogamer3607
    @titanogamer3607 День тому

    for the lubrication of apex seals, wouldnt diesel self lubricate? no need for ext oil?

  • @arachnodose7382
    @arachnodose7382 День тому

    hey D4A, have you heard of julian edgar? he is an ausssie with some thoughts on aerodynamics and suspension. I am most interested in his aero talk and figured you might be too. he talks about optimizing aero flow for intercoolers and airducting and has some affordable techniques for testing it, magnehelics. you mentioned in the video that the air flow to your car leaves less performance head room and he has some ideas about that stuff that are kinda interesting. @driving 4 answers

  • @Der_Silvesterkarpfen
    @Der_Silvesterkarpfen День тому

    American V8 sounds better

  • @LogicArray
    @LogicArray День тому

    Hello there Thanks for such video Q is there car with with dual fuel injection other than Toyota?

  • @clutzfrmr3645
    @clutzfrmr3645 День тому

    If this actually was a feasible engine, but was just lacking sufficient Torque for accelerating from a stop,You could add a flywheel.. You could also incorporate a braking action that restarts the flywheel for the next acceleration phase.

  • @Antron_Edition
    @Antron_Edition День тому

    nitromethane releases more energy per explosion in an engine at the cost of fuel efficiency. so this means you would need more nitromethane to go the same distance than you would in say a gas engine.

  • @pazsion
    @pazsion День тому

    weird they dont just forge the carbon into aluminum, or use steel fiber with carbon and forge weld it 🤓

  • @luppano
    @luppano День тому

    Just deleted the low pressure EGR vavle of my 4x4 on a rock.

  • @drevokocur66
    @drevokocur66 День тому

    Bigger brakes dissipate heat faster, and stop more consistently. The smaller brakes don't and lose their stopping power when they get too hot. Locking up brakes and triggering ABS on dirt is pointless.

  • @lariojaalta890
    @lariojaalta890 День тому

    Great video. Appreciate you also linking the video from driving 4 answers. He’s got some really great videos. One sorta related to this one if anyone is interested is: MIND BOGGLING ENGINE GEOMETRY - Rod Ratio Explained

  • @BuiltByBj
    @BuiltByBj День тому

    I have a design that combines the rotary valve and free valve technology. It seems that it will fixes all problems. However I have lost motivation on the project. Maybe in the future I’ll make a video about it.

  • @UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx

    Um you made then max hp at 10504rpm for the horsepower biased engine when it redlined at 6k

  • @ksairman
    @ksairman День тому

    BS